11/07/2004

Sick Bastards!

These are the sick bastards that the Democrats would have turned Iraq over to, had Kerry won the election. These are the type of people he would have sought international consent before dealing them the swift death they deserve!

The Democrats' shameful cowardice should not soon be forgiven or forgotten!
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087985/

Except this is happening in Iraq

8:51 PM  
Blogger The G-man said...

To save my readers some time, the link goes to a reference to the movie Red Dawn, with which the anonymous poster wishes to insinuate that the United States is invading Iraq for the purposes of annexation. To which I would only reply, "wishing doesn't make it so!"

9:41 PM  
Blogger The G-man said...

...and by the way anonymous, where in the movie did the "insurgents" wire a school to explode, killing innocent children so the Russians could be blamed?

9:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you ever see the movie?
You don't remember a scene that take playground?
I'll give you a hint - it's at night and one of the "insurgents" dies.

G-man - are you always so arrogant? You really don't invite discussion just your unending pontification.

Annexation? You obviously didn't watch the movie - the soviets encouraged an civilian government composed of 'cooperative' elements of the native population.

The US was not annexed in the movie - it was 'liberated'.

10:31 PM  
Blogger The G-man said...

Did you ever see the movie?I own a copy.

You don't remember a scene that take playground?
I'll give you a hint - it's at night and one of the "insurgents" dies
.

I remeber the scene very well. Where in that scene were the "insurgents" killing innocent children (other than themselves?) so that they could blame the Russians?

G-man - are you always so arrogant? You really don't invite discussion just your unending pontification.

No I am not always so "arrogant", only when people post obvious drivel when hiding behind an anonymous moniker! If you wish to discuss, feel free, but I'd prefer if you'd do so with some identification as to who you are so that I don't have to address you as "anonymous", or are you ashamed of the points you are espousing?

11:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't handle anonymous posts? Turn the feature off. It's your choice to allow them or not - it doesn't effectively change the content of the 'conversation'.
I could just as easily visit with an account that had no completed profile.
My anonymity has no bearing on the points made or the confidence of the argument made. You post a statement and invite comment anonymous, semi-anonymous (like you) or fully identified like someone who put a real name in a profile. Deal with it.

The PR blurb you cite makes an assumption that the explosives could 'potentially kill dozens of Iraqi children'.
The same can be said of any weapon held or controlled by any party in proximity of potential victims.
It also notes that the explosives were rigged to detonate three ways:
through a light switch,
a remote control,
by wiring that ran to the nearby Mosque.

Try this on - if our forces were alerted to the presence of the explosives in the mosque, where would they operate from?
Theres a good chance that it would be the nearby youth center.
One place to detonate would be by an agent who worked at the youth center who would die when the light switch was thrown,
a second would be from the mosque if the you center was taken while unoccupied by an agent.
The third method would be by wireless signal in case the previous two were discovered or failed.
Do a check on creating defensive fortifications - it is not automatically related to targeting children.

It also is not related to 'killing innocent children so the Americans could be blamed' to borrow from your asssumption that has no relation to the news release at all.

Go back and watch the movie again and notice that in Red Dawn the 'youth center' is bombed by insurgents to put pressure on the local population to not cooperate with the forces controling the country.
It was borrowed from the experiance of Vietnam, but is not unique or unexpected and predates even Vietnam.

These are situations that occupation forces deal with no matter which side of 'right' or 'wrong' your are on and is not connected to being a sick bastard, just a fighter.

There is not one of us from this side of the conflict that does not think that things would go better if the insurgents (Iraqi nationals and others) would just lay down the weapons and let us have our way. Unfortunately it does not work that way following an invasion and occupation.
These things are expected and predictable, what shouldn't have been predicted was a short operation with improperly equipt, un trained(for policing) and insufficient numbers of forces to be greeted by a grateful population.
That's a reality disconnect by GWB and Rumsfeld should not be forgotten or forgiven quickly.

Keep making stuff up, McDill will provide you with all the incomplete PR releases you need.

11:17 AM  
Blogger The G-man said...

We can however go from experience. We've seen this enemy attack children over and over again. We know that they consider them to be valid targets. How does depriving babies of food and water, then bayonetting them because they're crying fit into your benevolent picture of the enemy?

Next, you are trying to compare a fictional account of an invasion that never happened to real life. There is a difference between fiction and reality you know.

Our forces are constrained to behave in accordance with the Geneva Conventions. The enemy however has no compunctions about discarding those constraints. That allows us to take the principled high ground and denounce them as the animals that they are. If they targetted only troops and collborators, then perhaps could they stake some claim to the high ground. Desperation is no defense for depravity.

Further, many of these goons have no stake in the situation. They are foreigners intent only on creating havoc so that they can bring about an Iraq in the image that they desire.

12:12 PM  

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